Site Owner tenjuna Posted November 30, 2011 Site Owner Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 as you can see I have added a new TT system. since I have absolutely no intention re-writing it from scratch yet again (the first version had to have taken like 50 hours of coding to get it right), I have decided to have an outside developer re-work a similar mod that he already had. the new system is going to function a lot like the eBay feedback system, with the exception that anyone can leave any feedback for anyone. I am implementing flood control so that someone can't just spam the hell out of your scores. people who try to mess with my system will find themselves on the wrong end of my heavy ass ban stick. I may put in the requirement that you post a link to the actual trade thread, we will see how it goes first. in the avatar info section in topics/posts, you can see the current scores and feedback left. green = positive feedback gray = neutral feedback red = negative feedback you leave feedback by going to that members' profile or by clicking the "TrustyTrader" link. you can see their past feedback by clicking on "Feedback Scores:" you can only leave feedback once per day, and must use the CAPTCHA to do so. this will keep spamming down...I can't make it only one per person, but I can make it pointless to spam it out. I intend to put the TT shields back up once I figure out how to modify that avatar info section. how it is earned will remain the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj_kilmore Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 a few days ago, i was asking myself where the tt system went im lovin this new tt system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I was like wtf is this under my name and was like sweet the TT system is back. Looks cool/different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator IAmNumbaOne Posted November 30, 2011 Administrator Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Excellent, glad to see the changes are coming about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specifics Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 http://www.dtrades.org/index.php?/user/26301-specifics/page__tab__feedback mine should be 100% positive but it says 0% positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted November 30, 2011 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 if your scores are wrong hold on to your panties I am still working on it...as I said in the first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joz Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Cain, you're the only one here that wears panties...so what you need to say is: "If you scores are wrong, shut the fuck up, I'm working on it between beers." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted November 30, 2011 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I went ahead and bolded the sentence to make sure people see it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specifics Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 if your scores are wrong hold on to your panties I am still working on it...as I said in the first post. i replied to the first pm saying I can only accept paypal gift currently, does that work for u? I didnt get it....but yeah I dont have PP but yeah forget it anyways..didnt see the 9 negative lol can u pm this guy saying that my 9 negatives are actually positives because its currently ruining a trade of mine lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted November 30, 2011 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Well it's fixed now so point him to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted December 1, 2011 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 I have re-added the TrustyTrader link to take you directly to adding a feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted December 2, 2011 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 apparently people could leave multiple feedbacks to one person. I have to figure out if I can limit it to 1 per person...it's kind of a pain to code for ipb 3.2, so if it's not easily done I am going to have to restructure how TT works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 2, 2011 Report Share Posted December 2, 2011 apparently people could leave multiple feedbacks to one person. I have to figure out if I can limit it to 1 per person...it's kind of a pain to code for ipb 3.2, so if it's not easily done I am going to have to restructure how TT works. sorry for the bad news hah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted December 3, 2011 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 I am still trying to figure out the multiple feedback thing...but it is starting to look like we may have to abandon the TT of old and restructure how we as staff recognize those members we feel are absolutely trustworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specifics Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I am still trying to figure out the multiple feedback thing...but it is starting to look like we may have to abandon the TT of old and restructure how we as staff recognize those members we feel are absolutely trustworthy. you could just just like u'll ban those users from here on out who rate people multiple times or something to force people not to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I am still trying to figure out the multiple feedback thing...but it is starting to look like we may have to abandon the TT of old and restructure how we as staff recognize those members we feel are absolutely trustworthy. you could just just like u'll ban those users from here on out who rate people multiple times or something to force people not to do it It would be way to much to moderate ya know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specifics Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I am still trying to figure out the multiple feedback thing...but it is starting to look like we may have to abandon the TT of old and restructure how we as staff recognize those members we feel are absolutely trustworthy. you could just just like u'll ban those users from here on out who rate people multiple times or something to force people not to do it It would be way to much to moderate ya know? well for most people that value there accounts here, if that rule was posted saying like ull be banned if u double rate someone, i know i wouldn't dare to do it. thats me tho, I don't really know for others. i actually did double rate nb-fusion a few days ago to see if i could, (before this thread was posted ofc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I am still trying to figure out the multiple feedback thing...but it is starting to look like we may have to abandon the TT of old and restructure how we as staff recognize those members we feel are absolutely trustworthy. you could just just like u'll ban those users from here on out who rate people multiple times or something to force people not to do it It would be way to much to moderate ya know? well for most people that value there accounts here, if that rule was posted saying like ull be banned if u double rate someone, i know i wouldn't dare to do it. thats me tho, I don't really know for others. i actually did double rate nb-fusion a few days ago to see if i could, (before this thread was posted ofc) I get what you're saying but even if people did it would be to hard to monitor(I think) ya know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted December 5, 2011 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 it's all fixed, but I am not allowing new feedback until I make a final decision on whether to code an ebay-like feedback hook, or just let tt go and do straight feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator madd-hatter Posted December 5, 2011 Administrator Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 The new system looks good. If your still planning on bringing back the TT shield, I think a nice, bold "Staff Approved Trader" tag would take it's place nicely, be more space efficient, and probably easier on the coding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted December 5, 2011 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 If for some reason I cannot do the 1 feedback per person, then what I think I will do is manually inline a shield for staff approved people. my concern is people spamming feedback, but I see no way out of it...the new system is a pain to code for so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABERSAW Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 I like it. Are all,the staff ranks adjusted? Still seems like a lot of global mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted December 6, 2011 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 look at your group TT is still turned off, I have a programmer helping me figure out how to go about this. at the very least I am going to make it like ebay and have first feedback count towards number, but future feedback can still be left without lifting the score. this will cut out people spamming feedback. more than likely though the TT as we have known it is dead. I _might_ come back to the shield thing, but right now I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABERSAW Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 awww i always wanted a shield...it was the last thing i needed on my account!! what about my group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted December 8, 2011 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 what about your group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joz Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I think he's wondering if global mods get automatic TT shields? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted December 8, 2011 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 haven't gotten that far yet. stop asking about tt stuff until tt is actually done lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted December 8, 2011 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 the only thing I am waiting for is a solution to having only first feedback count towards %...until the lightbulb turns on above my head it's at a standstill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joz Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Say, that again, it made no sense the way you phrased it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted December 9, 2011 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 think ebay feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joz Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Cant you code it some way that the site takes only the first feedback left by someone (and calls it P1) and then all other feedback left by the same user as P2? positive, neutral, negative Then it would just be the simple %Post - %Neg = % I have no clue how ebay feedback works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted December 10, 2011 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 gee, it only took 50 posts for you to catch up to what I have been saying all along. that's what I am waiting for inspiration to strike on is to HOW to what you just said. as I mentioned, if it was easy everyone would do it. now stfu lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joz Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 It would help if I had a better understanding of what the code looked like. But I have nothing to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted January 9, 2012 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 I was able to work with the developer on adding flood control and CAPTCHA support to this, so once I can get the file package sent to me, I will be opening TT finally. what I decided on with the TT shield is to add a second group tag that says TrustyTrader on it. I am going with green and black outline with silver or gold text...whatever strikes me as fitting based on the old shield coloring. since I have already put in the ability to have 2 group tags show up, that is way easier that trying to add yet another admin field and a way to put a shield in the avatar section. plus it saves space. if anyone hasn't noticed, I am totally leaning on the very easy way to get this stuff done...I am soooooo not going to put in thousands of hours to recoding stuff that took me thousands of hours to do the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted January 10, 2012 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 tt is live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seto Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 tt is live. nice, I hope the shield is not coming back though, imo it was ugly and really ...umm out of place but the new system looks nice =) I like the idea of showing all votes and allowing neutral votes instead of a total of positive and egative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sKai Posted January 10, 2012 Report Share Posted January 10, 2012 Neato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted January 11, 2012 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 tt is live. nice, I hope the shield is not coming back though, imo it was ugly and really ...umm out of place but the new system looks nice =) I like the idea of showing all votes and allowing neutral votes instead of a total of positive and egative since I have already put in the ability to have 2 group tags show up, that is way easier that trying to add yet another admin field and a way to put a shield in the avatar section. plus it saves space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara-killa Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Trustytrader was definately fun and yes very much "ebay rating - like". Enjoyed it for the small amount of time I actually used it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piedpiper Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Hey is there a guide to use the TT system? Also, how do you prevent a user from getting bogus TT reviews? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sKai Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Hey is there a guide to use the TT system? Also, how do you prevent a user from getting bogus TT reviews? All negative votes need to get approved by admin or staff, and usually need to have some sort of proof involved for the negative rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted January 27, 2012 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hey is there a guide to use the TT system? Also, how do you prevent a user from getting bogus TT reviews? All negative votes need to get approved by admin or staff, and usually need to have some sort of proof involved for the negative rating. this is simply not true. I wish people would actually read the stuff I post. people can leave whatever feedback they wish, hence why it's called feedback. I don't even know what prompted me to have a queue for negative ratings in the first place, it was a huge waste of time refereeing people. if you want to ensure good feedback, then do good trades. obvious troll feedback will be dealt with on a case by case basis. please note that you complaining about it does not make it obvious *to me*. it will have to be pretty cut and dry before I will even deal with it. not everyone can be lovey dovey with everyone else, and you can expect to get negative feedback if people are not happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specifics Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hey is there a guide to use the TT system? Also, how do you prevent a user from getting bogus TT reviews? All negative votes need to get approved by admin or staff, and usually need to have some sort of proof involved for the negative rating. this is simply not true. I wish people would actually read the stuff I post. people can leave whatever feedback they wish, hence why it's called feedback. I don't even know what prompted me to have a queue for negative ratings in the first place, it was a huge waste of time refereeing people. if you want to ensure good feedback, then do good trades. obvious troll feedback will be dealt with on a case by case basis. please note that you complaining about it does not make it obvious *to me*. it will have to be pretty cut and dry before I will even deal with it. not everyone can be lovey dovey with everyone else, and you can expect to get negative feedback if people are not happy. I was wondering what the policies are on positive TTing someone more than once. are you allowed to do it for every different trade you do with a person? or only once. someone just TT'd me and I realized he did earlier also, because we have done 2 different trades recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted January 30, 2012 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 again, obvious abuse will be dealt with on a case by case basis. obviously, I am sure people will report repeated use of negative feedback long before they report positive. this isn't the old TT guys, so wrap your head around the new system, this is as good as I can make it without removing it entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Owner tenjuna Posted January 30, 2012 Author Site Owner Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 actually, I may make the URL field mandatory, so that the trade can be clearly referred to. something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ff7_seprez Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 u gieb TT? lol but srsly though, how the hell is it that i have only 41 ratings lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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